Wednesday, September 22, 2010

Dear Jan... (Repsac3's reply to an inquisitive American Power commenter)

A response to Jan, a commenter at the American Power post "Anti-Intellectualism and the Marxist Idea," who addressed me directly:
repsac3:

Do you even realize that you, and the rest of the harassers, and haranguers, from your site, and the others who seem to delight in sitting at the ready to pounce on every misspelled word, or anything else that you think you can use to embarrass, or to insult the intelligence of Dr. Douglas, only serve to make you look like a bunch of Junior High School bullies?
Jan, you are certainly welcome to view any/all of us as Junior High School bullies if you wish... ...but I hope you understand that much of what folks on my site and others do is in response to very similar bad behavior from Dr. Douglas. (In fact, every author and blog listed at American Nihilist is there as a result of having been attacked by Dr. Douglas on the pages of American Power, and many of us view Donald Douglas as the Jr. High bully--especially given his penchant for making up fake names for us and making crude suggestions about our sexuality.)

That said, I agree that some of the behavior found on our blogs and on Dr. Douglas' American Power is immature. There is much--even on American Nihilist--that I wouldn't personally post. (That can happen with group blogs, especially when one gives each author the responsibility for policing his own work...) While you're free to try to lump "all liberals" or "all who disagree with Donald Douglas" together, I summarily reject such nonsense... We're each individuals, and each responsible for our own words and deeds. If you wish to address something I've said or done, I'll be glad to discuss it with you. But there's little I can do with your general condemnation of us all... We're no more a monolith than "all conservatives" or "all American Power readers."
I've read the comments on your site, and the others, and you all seem to get great satisfaction in egging each other on, each trying to be funnier, more clever, or even more sarcastic than the other. Have you thought about how awful you make yourselves, and your own ideological beliefs look to others?
There is little doubt that we at American Nihilist enjoy ourselves and laugh at many of each other's posts and comments. I'm sorry that you do not find them funny and that you feel we should be more serious about it all, but perhaps American Nihilist just isn't the blog for you... (If you notice, I tend to be the most serious author here... When Donald Douglas wishes aloud that liberals like me lose our heads the way Daniel Perl did, I have trouble finding the funny... YMMV...)

Of course, I don't agree that we make ourselves look awful, but as above, that's a subjective thing. You're free to view us however you choose. I'm perfectly willing to defend my ideological beliefs, as soon as you're more clear as to what beliefs of mine you're taking issue with...
As to your constant complaining about comment moderation, I think it is just another aspect of your bullying, thinking that you have made him afraid of your hateful words...just another of your silly ways of trying to intimidate. I, daresay, that he is in no way intimidated by any of you, knowing that what you say about him is not true...but the man does have feelings like any other human being, believe it, or not.
I'm not so sure I have constantly complained about comment moderation, and invite you to back what you say with evidence of my having done so.

I do think that moderating one's comments before the fact for content is kinda cowardly, and is wholly inconsistent with a person whose blog blurb claims that they "welcome comments and debate, and [will] defend [their] positions vigorously." Dr. Douglas has every right to moderate his comments for content, whatever his reason, but that doesn't preclude me from expressing my opinion about his doing so... (...much as you have about my blog...)

And again, you really are kinda missing the point. There is very little being done TO Donald Douglas on other blogs that hasn't been done BY Donald Douglas to one or more of his many detractors, on his blog and elsewhere. It's kind of a tit for tat thing... And no, we're not intimidated by him, either...
Concerning the Sasquatch Isreal sign, who's to say that it really wasn't a play on words, and wasn't saying what it looked like to some people.? I think that the way that Dr. Douglas' photo was altered, with the "I Love Jusus" was not only to heap more ridicule upon him, because of his own moral views, but was a rather racist, anti-Semitic statement in itself...considering the fact that Jesus was a Jew. A play on words?
You are, of course, welcome to interpret the "Sasquatch Is Real" sign any way you wish, including going so far as to agree with Dr. Douglas that it was some kind of liberal, anti-semitic conspiracy, where the man was saying (on behalf of all liberals, natch) that Israel is as phony as bigfoot himself. If you have indeed read through the posts that others have written on the subject, you already know about the Facebook page "Sasquatch is Real," as well as all the other evidence indicating that such an interpretation is a pretty big stretch of the imagination, with no other purpose than to paint all liberals with a big ol' anti-semitic brush, but even so, you're welcome to buy into that, if you wish. But if you do, then don't be surprised when folks look at you kinda funny, the same way they do Professor Douglas...

Because to most of us, misreading the sign--seeing "Sasquatch Isreal," rather than "Sasquatch Is Real," isn't a big deal... A cringe-worthy mistake to be sure, especially when one goes out in public--say, announcing it on a blog--misreading it for the whole world to see, but minor in the general scheme of things...

But making up some myth about anti-semitism based on misreading a sign, and lying about a whole group of people just because you disagree with them politically, is pretty friggin' bad. And Jan, it is a good indication of the kind of person you're defending... You're welcome to continue doing so, of course, but I warn you... People will judge you as a person based on your willingness to defend those actions... People will think you'd be willing to lie that way, yourself.

I've no doubt that the photoshop of Donald's hat was intended to heap ridicule upon Dr. Douglas. But according to the folks who made it, the intent was to make fun of his letter transposition ("ISRAEL", vs "ISREAL"), and nothing more... (As I wasn't there, I cannot say... ...nor can I be held responsible, whatever your interpretation...)
Tell me, repsac3..exactly what is the agenda of yourself, and the others, in your constantly trying to tear down this man, and his ideals? Is it your idea of intellectual elitism? Or did you guys just never get that Junior High School bullying out of your systems?

I'd really like to know.
As I've said several times, I can only speak for myself in this regard... (Though perhaps some of the others to whom you refer would be willing to chime in and speak for themselves.) But here's why I created American Nihilist, and why I often post about the antics of Professor Douglas:

I hate bullies. For well over a year, I read as Donald Douglas excoriated liberal blogger after liberal blogger, often in pretty nasty terms. I found him to be wrong politically, of course, but that wasn't it. My problem with Dr. Douglas was that he was pompous and kinda mean, as well as being wrong.

Also, I was mystified by this whole nihilist thing. See, everytime he called me a nihilist, I asked him--a professor of political science--to back what he said with evidence of my nihilism. I'd challenge him to choose any dictionary, copy the definition of the word "nihilism," and then show examples, in the form of quotes from me, that support the notion that I am a nihilist. When he labeled some other blogger, I challenged him to do the same with quotes of that person. And while he was very free with the label, he has never actually shown that any liberal blogger has ever expressed a nihilist thought. In fact, he has never even tried.

As Donald attacked other bloggers on his site or theirs, labeling them no good nihilists everywhere he went, this whole "nihilist" schtick of his became kind of a joke around the liberal blogosphere, and folks began to know him as the wingnut who goes around calling everyone nihilists, like the boy who cried wolf... He practically made the word meaningless through repetition...

So one night, I was bored, and created a blogspot blog that was a funhouse mirror of American Power. Where he used black, I used white, and where he used white, I used black. I intended it to be a one-off joke, where I'd do one or two posts calling everyone and everything "nihilist," and that'd be that. I sent authorship invitations to a few of the bloggers who Donald had attacked as being nihilists, figuring that we'd all have a good laugh... But instead, a few of 'em accepted the authorship positions, and started writing posts, in character. And the rest, as they say...

Authors have come, and authors have gone, but we're still here, still dealing with Donald's many attacks on others, and yes, launching a few on him, as well. The blogroll is made up of blogs/bloggers that Donald has attacked on his blog. Any of 'em are welcome to become authors here, anytime they wish. Other than illegal acts or items that threaten the continued existence of the blog, I don't censor anyone's writing. They're all adults, and thus each author is responsible for defending or apologizing for his own posts. (Yes, I know that Donald would prefer that I treat them like children, and only allow posts that I personally would approve of, but I see that as being far too "nanny state" for me. Should Donald ever run a group blog of his own, he is free to censor it any way he sees fit, but I believe that each individual author is capable of dealing with/defending their own posts.)

In a nutshell, Jan, that is why I expose the foolish and the dangerous or nasty things Donald Douglas says on his blog. I don't like bullies in general, and I specifically don't like the way Dr Douglas treats the folks he doesn't agree with, so I decided to do to him what he was doing to others. Should he ever stop mistreating people, I'll stop calling him out for it. In the meantime, we'll all be here, Donald in his place, and we in ours...

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to reply, Jan... I hope that I've made some things at least a little more clear... If you have any other questions or comments, please feel free to stop by American Nihilist or any of the other blogs I frequent... Everyone's welcome, even Dr. Douglas... (I'd advise against bothering to contact me again via Donald's blog, however--particularly if you expect a response--as he obviously frowns on my commenting there...) Should this be our last encounter, I hope you didn't find it too hard to stomach... (Obviously I'm biased, but I really don't believe any of us are the monsters Dr. Douglas makes us out to be... We just disagree with his political beliefs, and even moreso, his behavior toward those who don't see things as he does, politically or socially. For the most part, however, we're quite pleasant, if we do say so ourselves...)

September 21, 2010 6:42 AM

14 comments:

ex DLB said...

Very nice, Reppy. That's why you're the Moe to Truth and my, Larry and Curly.

I kinda doubt Jan will come over to our little frathouse to visit, but hope springs eternal.

And hey, pale Scot if you show up, knock off the racist bullshit. We're nihilists not racists.

AYATOLLAH TRUTHMENI 101 said...

Interesting that I rarely get attacked. In fact I think Donald and I are on the road to friendship much like Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush.

Donald Douglas said...

"There is very little being done TO Donald Douglas on other blogs that hasn't been done BY Donald Douglas to one or more of his many detractors, on his blog and elsewhere."

That's competley false. Please prove your allegations. There's is simply nothing I could do that would descend to your level of evil.

This is a hate site. exDLB may have written a racist comment at BJ Keefe's, but he denies it. See, 'It's Come to This: Progressives Reduced to Racist Slurs Against American Power'.

I'm requesting that you and exDLB publish a repudiation. I don't know who wrote the comment, but exDLB cheered Brendan's thread, and may well have logged in again under a pseudonym. YOU may have logged in under a pseudonym. But that doesn't matter. The fact is that I fight political battles from the stand moral clarity. And you all can't stand it. That's why American Nihilist is dedicated to hate. It is a hate site, as is Sadly No! Filled with post after post of demonic photoshops and ugly hate-filled commentary. This is what you folks do.

Donald Douglas said...

I could have sworn I already commented. Perhaps Reppy's banned AmPow from his hate site attacking AmPow?

One more try, in any case: Will Repsac3 denounce the racism: 'It's Come to This: Progressives Reduced to Racist Slurs Against American Power'?

Plus, bonus find: An American Nihilist groupie responds to the racism by calling me a racist.

All from the evil haters of American Nihilist!!

repsac3 said...

I was just going to say the same thing, Dr. Douglas (about your comment not being here, that is...) I got it via e-mail, and cannot explain why it didn't post. I'll repost it, as written, and then reply in a separate comment. (We would never, ever ban you, Donald... In fact, the more you speak, the more you show your true colors, and as I said below, exposing you for who you really are is one of our whole reasons for being here...) Anyway... On to your missing comment:
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"There is very little being done TO Donald Douglas on other blogs that hasn't been done BY Donald Douglas to one or more of his many detractors, on his blog and elsewhere."

That's competley false. Please prove your allegations. There's is simply nothing I could do that would descend to your level of evil.

This is a hate site. exDLB may have written a racist comment at BJ Keefe's, but he denies it. See, 'It's Come to This: Progressives Reduced to Racist Slurs Against American Power'.

I'm requesting that you and exDLB publish a repudiation. I don't know who wrote the comment, but exDLB cheered Brendan's thread, and may well have logged in again under a pseudonym. YOU may have logged in under a pseudonym. But that doesn't matter. The fact is that I fight political battles from the stand moral clarity. And you all can't stand it. That's why American Nihilist is dedicated to hate. It is a hate site, as is Sadly No! Filled with post after post of demonic photoshops and ugly hate-filled commentary. This is what you folks do.
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Originally posted by Donald Douglas to American Nihilist at September 22, 2010 10:39 AM

repsac3 said...

That's completely false. Please prove your allegations. There's is simply nothing I could do that would descend to your level of evil.

I'm not saying there's nothing one of us has done that you haven't done, but there is very little... Tell you what; You point out the bad behavior by someone here, and I'll try to find an example of your doing something similar...

This is a hate site.

No, Donald... It really isn't.

exDLB may have written a racist comment at BJ Keefe's, but he denies it.

...

I don't know who wrote the comment, but exDLB cheered Brendan's thread, and may well have logged in again under a pseudonym. YOU may have logged in under a pseudonym.

You should've just stopped with "I don't know who wrote the comment..." because, if you don't believe it was Pale Scot (see below), the fact is, you really don't know who wrote it.

One thing's for certain, however... You have no basis by which to accuse either of us, or anyone else aside the person who actually put his/her handle to it. And that, Donald, is the hard truth.

I mean, I might just as easily say YOU wrote it, just to have something to bitch about... (Or perhaps you're Jan, the author of the comment to which this whole post is replying, for that matter...) One reason I don't accuse you of being either of those people is that I have zero evidence that you wrote either comment.

The bottom line is, you have zero evidence that anyone here wrote a comment as Pale Scot, no matter how many times you repeat your baseless and kinda paranoid allegation, and I urge you to either show your evidence, or stop making the charge. Put up or shut up.

And no, I won't renounce or denounce it, because I have absolutely nothing to do with it. Also, I think it's pretty tame, assuming it's raaaaacist, at all. (And since when are you so comfortable playing the raaaaacism card, btw...? I thought you were against that kinda thing?)

As to your post, I'll simply point out that at best, it's one progressive using a racist slur (slur? What slur?), and it's against you, not American Power. (And that's assuming the guy is even a progressive, in the first place.) Your penchant for sweeping generalization (not to mention, melodrama) really is astounding, sometimes...

Finally, just for the record, it appears that "Pale Scot" has been commenting under that handle since at least 2008. Perhaps you could stop making up conspiracy theories about me &/or XD (&/or whomever else it'd be convenient to smear), and get on with writing your series of "war on Pale Scot" posts about the guy who actually made the comment... I'm just sayin'... (And if/when you do, you can let us know whether he's a progressive, as well.)

The fact is that I fight political battles from the stand moral clarity.

Folks all over the blogosphere are proving that at least some of the time, that just isn't so. At the very least, some of us find your morality questionable... And people will continue to point out where and why, as long as you keep saying morally questionable things.

repsac3 said...

That's why American Nihilist is dedicated to hate. It is a hate site, as is Sadly No! Filled with post after post of demonic photoshops and ugly hate-filled commentary.

Be more specific, and we can discuss whatever it is you're seeing as hate. As I said to your commenter, Jan, there's little I can do with your general condemnation of all of us and everything we do and say... (In fact, I'd venture to say that someone who can find no redeeming values or anything about which we haven't been hateful and demonic is far more hate-filled than any of us here... At one time or another, each of us has given you credit for things you've been correct about... I can think of no examples of your being as honest, even when we've agreed with you. I'd give that a little bit of thought, Dr. Douglas... Perhaps you ought to spend a little more time talking to that guy in the mirror.)

An American Nihilist groupie responds to the racism by calling me a racist.

Sorry, but until yesterday, I don't believe Meat & I had ever met... (And I don't think he's been a reader here... When I brought up the bit about how you wouldn't feel bad if it was liberal heads being chopped off by terrorists (which is not the least bit hateful or eliminationist, by the way), he hadn't read my post on the subject.

Hopefully he'll become an AmNi groupie (if not an author), but I'm pretty sure he hasn't been, up to now...

But yeah, Donald... Your eubonics thing is kinda racist, and I wholly agree with his post. At the very least, your eubonics seems far more racist to me than a person commenting that you don't have the complexion of the average Scotsman... ...though obviously opinions can differ. (I've been telling you about this eubonics thing for a long time, buddy... Again, perhaps it's time you search your soul and decide whether that really is the person you want to be... Yo.)

ex DLB said...

Although I am certainly cheap enough to be Scottish, I am in fact predominately of French descent with some Welsh and English thrown in. I'm hoping Don doesn't accuse of some kind of prejudice for calling Scots cheap.

In addition, since I live sans (note the French) automobile I have a lovely tan. Hence I would not for any conceivable reason refer to myself as the Pale Scot.

I have posted comments as maxbaer, fauxmaxbaer, maxbaer(not the original), Kevin the Baker and more recently Deranged Leftwing Baker (or DLB OR ex-DLB). Yes, I may have a slight identity crisis. But Donald you're getting crazier by the day. Let me re-iterate that I'm glad to have the better part of the country between us.

AYATOLLAH TRUTHMENI 101 said...

The Scots are cheap. But not as cheap as the Dutch. Plus the Dutch are way bigger assholes. They make up for it by being sissies when it comes to holding their booze.


I don't know where I'm going with this. Don and I are friends now so I'm trying to be more hateful to make him feel at home here in our home.

ex DLB said...

I'm thinking of calling myself the Swarthy Frog for my next nom du web.

The Original David said...

If Dr. Donny-do or Jan is suffering emotionally from any JHS-style bullying, they may take solace in the message that it gets better.

On a less serious note, in today's column Dan also declared that every day between now and November 2nd is officially a Masturbate to Christine O'Donnell Day.

Brendan said...

In case anyone just can't get enough, La Donalde jumped into another comment thread over at my little house.

Inside jokes aplenty. Some scrolling required.

Brendan said...

Something else I meant to say: as you may or may not know, Blogger recently added a bit of a spam filter to their comments system. I had one of Donald's comments get caught that way the last time he came waddling over to my place. (I claim it's because his howling is indistinguishable from the chain emails one sees on Snopes, but that's a side issue.)

Anyway, it also happened for me that I got email notification of the comment, but the comment did not appear where expected. I had had this happen to me once before (with one of my own comments, on my own blog!, comically), so I knew where to start looking.

To release a comment caught in the spam filter, go to your Blogger dashboard, click the Comments button, and on the new page, look up in the upper left corner of the active area for a Spam link next to the Published link. It's as though you have two folders, in a sense.

Once you see that, the rest is intuitive.

Apologies for nerding out if you already knew all this.

repsac3 said...

Yep...

Spam filter...

Thanks, Brendan (I'm sure Dr Douglas would thank you too, if he wasn't so busy accusing me of banning him and calling you "bone job"...)

(I liked it better when you could see the spam folder on the blogger dashboard... Still, it's working great, spam-wise... Even with the occasional lost comment, it's kinda hard to complain...)